Flow Athletics is a rather new company, I was contacted by the owner Gene Kobilansky and asked if I would be willing to review their product. After a quick research of their product I agreed and then asked for an interview to learn a little bit more before reviewing the product. The interview and review are below
I was a little uneasy about trying Flow because there wasn’t really a lot of info about the product or the guys who created it besides what was on their website. This is the case for a lot of new supplements that I’ve tried and had great results though so I said what they hey lets do this.
I’m not sensitive to caffeine at all, but the first time I took it I was a little worried as I felt like I had just downed about three pots of coffee and ate some trucker speed from the local gas station. Head spinning, dizzy, and feel like just total ass.
The effect only lasted about 10 minutes but it was pretty gnarly. After that I felt completely normal but a tad thirsty.
As you would probably guess, I was a little bit reluctant to try FLOW again but I went ahead and tried it again to see if it would have the same effect.
I told Gene about these effects and he wrote back to me with this:
I have gotten some similar feedback (although not quite as extreme as trucker speed). Might I suggest we update the side-effects section of the interview to something along these lines
“Although the formula is designed to mitigate the effect, I’ve gotten feedback from just a couple folks that they experience strong jitters after taking Flow for the first time. Usually the effect subsides quickly, but we recommend starting with 1 pill and consuming with food, especially if you have a lower body weight.”
I knew I was about to roll for an hour and a half straight so I took some FLOW to see how it would do.
I literally felt amazing. I wasn’t jittery, I was super focused and really in tune with my senses. Even the guys I was rolling with noticed a big difference. Movement was sharp, submissions were spot on with no errors.
Needless to say I was looking forward to seeing if it was the FLOW or if I was just really tuned in that day.
The exact same effect as the day before only a little bit more amplified.
Summary of the Entire Bottle:
The first few weeks of the supplement were great. I felt more focused and really paid attention to every little detail in class. It was a slow build up in those first few weeks and then it hit. That dreaded word….
Leaning towards the end of the bottle though my body was getting used to the supplement and the effects weren’t as strong and eventually stopped towards the last week. This is expected with any supplement though and wasn’t a real surprise to me. I was surprised it declined so quickly and was a bit disappointed though.
I would like to add that my body consumes supplements very quickly and also gets used to them super fast as well. Some of you may not experience the plateau as soon as I did. Just depends on your body.
Side Effects After Stopping:
My main concern was the dependency on the supplement and how I would feel after I stopped taking the supplement. I didn’t notice anything out of the ordinary when I stopped taking FLOW in regards to mood swings or being irritable.
I still came with the same intensity and work ethic as before but I was distracted more easily.
Is it Worth it??
A lot of supplements are priced rather high. This one is priced at $54.99 for a 30 day supply. For the auto renewal purchase of FLOW you can get it for $38.49 a bottle. Here is their policy on the auto renewal process…
“Why do you need a Subscription?
You don’t, but we make it easier to resupply your essentials than it is to ignore them. Think about it. We know that some subscriptions can suck, but ours doesn’t. It’s opt-out, and we always remind you before an order will be placed. You remain in full control, with no obligation to buy anything ever. And the best part, you don’t have to remember to stock up every month.
Some months you’ll restock and other times you’ll be all set.
So while you don’t need a subscription, we really think you’ll want one. And did I mention the return policy is pretty effing good, too? What can I say, it’s all part of our goal to make it simple to Practice Perfect™.”
I have taken a lot of pre workout supplements but most of them gave me that jittery feeling and I was all over the place. I also paid about the same price for these same supplements. I am still on the fence about FLOW though because of the quick decline in the effects. If I needed to be super focused for two weeks before a tournament I would definitely take FLOW and save the rest for the next tournament.
Now on to the interview to discuss FLOW with the owner Gene.
Would you mind telling us a little bit about yourself?
My name is Gene Kobilansky. I’m 28 and was born in Kiev, Ukraine; grew up in Rochester, NY; I live, work and train in NYC.
Your page reads you’ve got 17+ years of experience in sports, When/how did you get into Combat sports?
I got into wrestling in Brighton’s (Rochester area school) pee-wee program in 1994. This was right around the time my family immigrated to America. The elementary school’s gym teacher, Mr. LaPaglia (AKA Pags) suggested that I try out wrestling. I fell in love with the sport during the first practice. Incidentally, Pags was also my high-school wrestling coach (for 2 years) and the inspiration behind FlowAthletics’s tag-line – Practice Perfect.
Pags always used to say, “Practice doesn’t make perfect; perfect practice makes perfect.”
After high-school, I came to NYC and wrestled at NYU. During my junior and senior years in college, MMA was really exploding and I started getting into BJJ, no-gi and MMA training. I’ve done that since graduation, really focusing on BJJ and coach wrestling whenever I can.
There isn’t a lot of information about flow online, when was Flow Athletics started?
FlowAthletics began early 2012. We spent about a year building FlowAthletics from the ground up and are just now starting to get the word out!
How did you come up with Flow for Combat athletes?
I’ll quote the FlowAthletics website to answer this one:
“One day it hit me. I had just gone 1-1 at a tourny I should have won easily, but I wasn’t in the match because I was nervous and unable to focus. Right around then I was reading about the DARPA’s program to accelerate learning in snipers. They hook electrodes to your head and zap your brain. This simulates the flow state. You learn better and perform better when in the flow state. I couldn’t zap my brain during BJJ practice, but what about a supplement… a different way of trying to simulate this mental state?”
How did the ingredients for Flow come about in that mixture?
In a nutshell, lots and lots of research. I developed the initial formula by looking at the scientific literature around the two main functional requirements – calm and focus. Once the ingredients list was complete, the chemical consultants at our manufacturer provided me with a proposed formula. It was around this time Dr. Pendleton joined the team. At this point I shared my progress with him and … we basically started from scratch. With Dr. P’s experience, more research and more reading we finally had a formula that was natural, effective and hit all the right functional requirements.
Did you base Flow off of another product you were taking and wanted an all natural alternative to it?
No, the idea for Flow actually came when thinking about using electricity to simulate the flow state.
Is Flow USDA approved?
Supplements in the US do not undergo USDA approval. Dietary supplements are actually regulated by the FDA. Here are the basic guidelines for FDA regulation around supplements:
The manufacturer of a dietary supplement or dietary ingredient is responsible for ensuring that the product is safe before it is marketed.
FDA is responsible for taking action against any unsafe dietary supplement product after it reaches the market.
Manufacturers must make sure that product label information is truthful and not misleading.
Here’s a good resource to research the FDA’s role in supplementation – http://www.fda.gov/Food/DietarySupplements/default.htm
What are the side effects of Flow?
I’ve gotten feedback from some that certain individuals can be sensitive to the caffeine in Flow (about 1/3 a cup of coffee) if they don’t drink coffee. In general the ingredients in Flow haven’t been shown to be harmful in any studies. Of course you should always consult with a healthcare practitioner before taking this or any other supplements.
How did you get in contact with Dr. James Pendleton, the man who helped you create the product?
Dr. Pendleton’s worked in the industry and is now an independent consultant for supplement formulation. He’s passionate about natural medicine and has done BJJ. I knew we were a perfect match to build the vision of FlowAthletics. I found him by searching for supplementation experts on line, reading tons of proposals and conducting interviews.
I write a bit about Dr. Pendleton (along with the many other vendors that helped me out) here – http://flowathletics.com/vendor-shout/
I’ve noticed you only have one Doctors study on Flow, do you have other independent sources that have done studies on the product?
It’s very rare that a supplement of this type would undergo it’s own double blind study (that’s typically reserved for drugs vs. supplements) although it’s something I would love to do in the future.
All of the ingredients in Flow do have a number of studies and testimonial evidence backing their effectiveness, which can be found here – http://flowathletics.com/ingredients/
Flow is a pre-workout supplement for focus yes? What makes it better than something you would buy at a GNC or YTFS?
We got a really great review on Amazon.com this week, and rather than blathering on, I’ll let Brian D. say it for me much better than I can say it myself
“I would suggest FLOW to those that may have pre-competition anxiety, that may benefit from a zone-like state of activity, or those that would like a little pick me up for practice or workouts here and there that won’t give you the jitters or a stomach ache. You may want to look for something else if you’re looking for something that’s going to work similar to creatine or nitric oxide. This is a great product that doesn’t over stimulate the body and really makes you feel like you’re firing your neurons, so if you’re looking for a new supplement to try and you’re liking what you hear, give it a try!”
The only thing I’d like to add is that Flow uses natural ingredients; just herbs, Vitamin B and 1 amino-acid (l-theanine, an extract from green tea). These ingredients were chosen based on the latest scientific analysis combined with a passion for natural and traditional medicine. The big box brands don’t and can’t say this.
The manufacturer of Flow is Nutricap Labs, we can see their certifications but would you mind telling us the certifications Flow has?
Flow doesn’t have any of its own certifications, but stay tuned … we’re working to change that.
Thanks for giving us an insight to Flow Athletics, is there anything else you would like to tell the readers?
First, I want to thank you for taking the time to ask these important questions. And I want to thank your readers for taking the time to read what I had to say.
Finally, I want to add that my #1 priority is customers that win fights, win tournaments and Practice Perfect. Flow is not a substitute for hard work. The ingredients in Flow just might help you work smart as you work hard. And remember, practice doesn’t make perfect; Perfect Practice makes perfect!