Albino and Preto Gi Review – v3 (A1)
Released at the IBJJF 2014 Mundials, this is the third albino and preto gi the company has released for public sale. Technically the fifth batch though as two of their sponsored black belts have had academy gi’s made. This particular batch has been in production and getting hyped up for quite some time and this was part one of their release. Part two will include the black A&P v3 and is due sometime in the near future.
Even though I was not at the 2014 Mundials, I was allowed to purchase this gi because I was the original purchaser and owner of the Albino and Preto 2013 IBJJF Mundials “Hunt” editions. Thanks Jay, Arvie, Roach, & Bear.
- 450 GSM Pearl Weave
- Black contrast
- EVA foam collar
- Embroidered logo
- Woven Patches & taping
- 12 oz Drill Cotton
- White w/ black & red contrast
- Six belt loops
- Stretchy rope drawstring
- Woven taping & patches
The Albino & Preto v3 gi is a pretty sturdy kimono that is IBJJF approved. If you’re a fan of SYR kimonos fit then you’ll like this gi’s fit. There was a lot of hype behind this gi and quite a few people were let down by the design, but on the contrary, a lot of people were also stoked about the design as well. Me being one of those stoked people.
The original thought process behind A&P was to be an always available line of gi’s, as opposed to their parent company Shoyoroll’s business model of being limited edition. This hasn’t been the case so far but then again it’s only their third official release so maybe we’ll see a change.
The gi itself is made well and has a design that is either
I personally think it’s a unique design blending contrasting colors and concepts for their patches. I’m not exactly sure why some of the patches words were cut off, all of the kimonos were like this. It was how it was designed I guess, to be more original.
For the most part, the construction is top notch with the exception of some bunched up stitching right beside the collar in one spot. I’ve highlighted that and shown in pictures above, as well as below in the more detailed section of the review. Other than that though, everything was good.
The gi itself is holding up well, nothing is pulling apart (taping, patches, etc) and it’s hardly shrank at all.
Now with all that being said, it’s up to you if you want to pay second market price for a white one or wait it out for the black one.
You can’t purchase this gi unless you wanna pay the inflated amount for it on the second market. This review is mainly serving a purpose/reference as to hopefully showcase the quality of the black one that is coming up for sale sometime soon. Maybe it’ll be a public release, who knows.
- Lightweight jacket
- Great fit
- All embroidery and patches are done well
- One spot of sub-par stitching
- Mundials only release
Weight Of Kimono:
Where to buy
This was an IBJJF Mundials only release
White – $180
Black – $
More Detailed Review
The gi bag that the Albino and Preto v3 comes in is a double strap backpack type of bag that is a white, polyester type of material that is partially see through.
It features a large, screen printed A&P logo in black on the front, and a smaller red woven A&P patch on the back.
The A&P logo is partially worn and faded, not exactly sure if it was supposed to be that way or not.
The v3 top is made of 475 GSM pearl weave with no contrast stitching. That is unusual coming from an A&P/SYR product but the end result is a cleanly designed jacket.
The collar, from what I can tell, has straight as an arrow stitching all the way around (strays on the inside) and feature two brand tags on the bottom of the left side.
One smaller woven rectangle tag that reads ” ALBINO AND PRETO martial arts uniform ” and measures slightly over 1.5″ long by .5″ tall.
Just slightly underneath that tag is a red woven tag that reads ” A+P ” in a modern lettering/font, that measures 3.75″ long by 1.5″ tall.
Both tags are secured by one row of stitching that matches their colors.
There are four spots of branding on the outside of this kimono top.
1. On the right sleeve, below the delt muscle, is an embroidered ” AP ” logo that is their official logo. The embroidery is slightly loose around some of the edges that is only noticeable when up close.
2. Running from the collar, down the top of the left shoulder is a gold and black rectangular woven patch that says ” ALBINO ” in the same modern font as other places on the kimono. The patch is secured by two rows of black stitching and is also sewn under the collar. The patch measures 10.25″ in length before it goes under the collar, and 2.25″ high. The patch is not folded over and is rough when running your finger along the edges in an upward motion. No effect when rolling or with shoulder pressure in the jaw that I’ve encountered or had feed back on.
3. On the lower left lapel, near the side split there is a small, white woven label that reads ” martial arts uniform cotton suppliers ALBINO AND PRETO mil-a-7823e (PK) Pearl weave limited ltd. ” in black and red letters. It is secured by one row of stitching and is folded over on two of the four sides. It measures 2.75″ long by 1.75″ high.
4. On the back of the jacket, .75″ under the collar and centered, there is a red woven patch with the same ” A+P ” letters as the fronts collar tag. Secured by one row of stitching, the patch seems to be fraying. Singeing it with a lighter would probably keep it from fraying any further.
Each of these design points seems to bring the outside of the kimono together along with a slight contrast of black on the side splits. The side split is sewn on by two rows of stitching, although on the inside of the jacket the sewing strays off of the black material and onto the jacket.
The inner taping that runs along the bottom of the jacket skirt and inside the sleeve cuffs all measure roughly .75″ high and is a woven, non scratchy taping that is not folded over but the edges are still as soft as the front of the taping. The taping is grey in color with black modern font lettering that reads ” ALBINOANDPRETO A+P ” over and over again. It is secured by two rows of white stitching along the edges.
The taping that follows the collar is slightly different in size and colors. It measures 1 cm, is black in main color and has the same words ” ALBINOANDPRETO A+P ” but in white color. It is secured by one row of white stitching and is also not folded over, but it scratchy in some places.
The bottom of the jacket skirt, on the outside, has a layer of drill cotton that measures One inch high and is secured by four rows of white stitching.
The inside neck yoke is made of a reversed pearl weave features a goldish brand tag that measures 5″ wide by 4.25″ tall. The patch is secured by one row of gold contrast stitching and is not folded over. The tag reads ” ALBINO & PRETO martial arts uniforms ” with the AP logo and ” 100% cotton manufactured in Pakistan designed in California “. Also a small red size tag centered directly below it.
It is also noted that two rows of white stitching goes through the brand tag. Not sure why they couldn’t sew this tag on last to prevent that from happening. It’s aesthetic obviously, but a point none the less.
As for reinforcements, they are your standard that you will see on most kimonos. Double stitched cuffs, triple stitched arm sleeve/chest seam. The side split reinforcement varies between gi companies but you will either see a triangle or a square/rectangle reinforcement. The Albino and Preto gi has the triangle.
I will also note that beside the collar on the outside of the gi, the stitching that is holding the inside taping had bunched up at the factory. A quick clip with scissors will take care of this though and it looks as if the taping is fine on the reverse side. See below
The Albino and Preto gi pants are made up of thicker 10 oz drill cotton and design wise are more flashier than the top.
They feature white drill cotton with black contrast stitching, side splits, and stretchy braided rope. The six belt loops are red in color and measure 1.5″ tall. Each belt loop is secured by one row of red stitching. The top of the loop is secured first, then it is folded over and laid flat and secured again.
Some belt loops are both laid flat and secured.
On the side splits, there is a rectangle material on the inside of the pants for a reinforcement to that specific area. Stitched on with two rows of black stitching.
There are five spots of branding on the outside of the pants.
1. On the right hip, there is a white woven label that reads ” ALBINO AND PRETO LOS ANGELES – CA US/.8/300g Martial arts uniforms light duty lot:5203 100/0008/2013 weaved cotton supply ltd. 300/08-03 1 ” with the AP logo. A mixture of red and black color is used for the letters. It measures 4.25″ tall by 4.5″ wide and the edges are not folded over and are slightly scratchy in places.
Also noted, the numbers are cut off at the bottom of the patch, but there is still enough space for them to be there. I’m chalking it up to be designed that way on purpose.
2. Directly below the left knee pad is a small white woven label that has mixed black and red lettering. It measures slightly under 3″ long by 1.75″ high and is also not folded over. Secured by one row of white stitching and is also slightly scratchy in places.
3. (4.) On the left and right hips are black patches with gold modern lettering that read ” ALBINO ” (left hip) and ” PRETO ” (right hip). Each patch is secured by two rows of black stitching and measure 10.5″ long by 2.5″ wide. Edges are not folded over and are slightly scratchy in places.
5. On the right leg, over the knee pad in a white, braided style of stitching you can see the outline of the letters ” AP ” sewn into the pant leg. This was a bold choice in design and so far, has paid off as it hasn’t weakened the pant leg’s construction at all. From my point, or anyone else’s account so far.
The knee pads measure 15.75″ long and stop 6.75″ from the bottom of the cuff.
Inside the pant cuffs feature the same taping as the jacket sleeve cuffs and are the same design/measurements. It is secured by three rows of stitching. The outside of the pant cuffs are secured with four rows of black stitching.
On the inside of the waist it features the same goldish colored brand tag that you saw on the inside of the jacket top secured by one row of gold stitching.
Instead of the small red woven size tag being directly under the tag though, it is off to the left back side of the trousers near the side split.
Generally the size tag is directly in the middle, to change things up they have added it off to the side instead. It’s nothing groundbreaking but it’s just something to be different.
As for reinforcements, as stated above the typical side split reinforcement, a triple stitched inseam running along the gusset and through the seat, but it also features a white cotton seam tape on the inside of the trousers that run from the middle of the leg, up the inseam, around the gusset, all the way to the top of the pant waist front and back (crotch and butt seam).
It measure 1.25″ and is secured by four rows of white stitching.
Albino and Preto Gi